As the violence increased, so those involved in it became organised. After viewing product detail pages, look here to find an easy way to navigate back to pages you are interested in. , Print length , X-Ray West Ham were fined 115,000, an amount seen as an insult by Millwall, which staunchly defended the actions of its own fans and the club's inability to do any more than it had for a match at a rival's ground. (i[r].q = i[r].q || []).push(arguments) You progressed from one to the other with F Troop (led by the now deceased but infamous Harry the Dog) being the bees knees. When a fixture like Millwall vs Everton generates headlines of violence, or Millwall vs Wigan for that matter - theres a part of me that just thinks what the f*** is that about?.is there really enough of a rivalry there to explain it? We subsequently complained to SAFC about being left behind and were invited into a meeting with Corny ODonnell, who was in charge of all things supporter wise at the time and our recompense was that we got a free trip to Eastville out of it, Bristol Rovers old ground. For other inquiries, Contact Us. [16] The then chairman Theo Paphitis responded that Millwall could not be blamed for the actions of a mindless minority who attach themselves to the club. You are using an out of date browser. Yeah it was the pub featured in the Panorama program became a Wetherspoons a couple of years before I moved down the line understand now demolished and is a block of flats the Saxon is now Lidls, RIP billy plummer.. millwall fan was a nice fella, Sorry to hear about that he was a good laugh Billy. And I know its not all Millwall fans, so its certainly not a dig at the whole fanbase. Yeah, yeah we said and thought nothing of it. 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Early 80's without a doubt. Harry the Dog was the leader of Millwalls notorious F-Troop during the 1970's, and the most feared football hooligan of his generation. I was wearing a Tartan scarf with a CFC badge sewed on it!. Sunderland would end an agonising 4rth, missing out on promotion by just 2 points, from Norwich City in third place. Has anyone ever seen the documentary about Millwall hooligans from 1977? [30], Former club chairman Reg Burr once commented: "Millwall are a convenient coat peg for football to hang its social ills on",[31] an example being the reporting of convicted murderer Gavin Grant. There is a written piece in the exhibition catalogue by my brother and co-collaborator on this project that talks to each of the guys about what was going on in their life at the time. To learn more about how and for what purposes Amazon uses personal information (such as Amazon Store order history), please visit our Privacy Notice. 27 February 2015. [26], In January 2009, hundreds of Millwall fans perceived as "high risk" individuals gained access to an FA Cup fourth-round match away at Hull City. Billy Plummer the young guy with the specs and the mad hair apparently regretted taking part in the interviews in [4], In the 1960s, hooliganism in England became more widely reported. Reviewed in the United Kingdom on 1 January 2022, Such a great read and so many good memories of what was very special days in the life of a football supporter, Reviewed in the United Kingdom on 5 February 2021. Reviewed in the United Kingdom on January 18, 2021. : Both sets of supporters were primarily made up of dockers, who lived and worked in the same locality in east and south London. Scotland Yard withdrew its threat to sue, stating: "In light of the efforts made and a donation to a charity helping injured police officers, the Metropolitan Police Service has decided not to pursue legal action against Millwall F.C. Yeah London has changed and grown. 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He continued, "I've got a black Labrador called Harry appears at 2:00 and 15:04 in the above YouTube clip, and with the rest of F Troop at 30:15 (Bobby The Wolf, Harry The Dog, Mad Pat and Winkle piled into the bus) 27 February 2015. We use cookies and similar tools that are necessary to enable you to make purchases, to enhance your shopping experiences and to provide our services, as detailed in our Cookie Notice. England were at home to France in what would become the Five Nations and a few French supporters, Englands opponents that day, milled about the police station for reasons that werent obvious to me. [4][9], The 1985 Kenilworth Road riot, after an FA Cup sixth-round match between Luton Town and Millwall on 13 March 1985, became one of the worst and widely reported incidents of football hooliganism to date. As we went into daylight and turned the corner we were met by about 20 Police Officer (The Feds), Dogs, Meat Wagons, Horses the lotall to escort us safely into the ground. Sorry, there was a problem saving your cookie preferences. Re: fao forever blue is harry the dog still alive Sun Mar 20, 2011 7:07 pm blue nile wrote: I remember reading something on a Millwall forum, the other member of first time I've been to a millwall game and was pleasantly surprised. He acted like he lived for a scrap ,fair play if that's what he wanted that's the way they were Back then ,it's just get on a rattler and sup ale av a scrap watch game( for 50 pence cash) Av another fight then get home see ya next week mush Cracking vibe to it that had the whole stadium rocking. The squire on Bromley road? For further details of our complaints policy and to make a complaint please click this link: thesun.co.uk/editorial-complaints/. [12] When Millwall's unbeaten home record of 59 games came to an end against Plymouth Argyle in 1967, the windows of the away team's coach were smashed. Kindle Edition. Student Portal Britannica is the ultimate student resource for key school subjects like history, government, literature, and more. $('.athena-blog-content').masonry({ Quick read, both funny and good violence I used too hear so many stories of Harry the dog when I was a millwall hooligan in the 80s, most true, a few mot so true, In summing this day up what could I say? It looks like you're new here. Neil Harris is doing a great job. I remember reading something on a Millwall forum, the other member of the F-Troop seen on the BBC documentry 1977, Bob The Wolf is very much alive, and can be seen on You Tube recreating his famous "Glass a northener in the head" quote. Reviewed in the United Kingdom on November 29, 2021, Worst piece of fiction I have ever read,should have called it, Reviewed in the United Kingdom on May 28, 2020, I thought it was about harry the dog but the book is rubbish from the first page to the last. Funny that, didnt look the type to have overdosed on TV quiz shows. OrCity Centre why the special always got taken to theStation near the ground. , Item weight [22], The Football Association later handed Millwall three charges and West Ham four. Your recently viewed items and featured recommendations, Choose delivery method and buy Kindle Books. We were the first multi-racial football crew in Britain it brought together youths from different areas of Birmingham during the Eighties," he said. The police halved the number of tickets given to travelling Millwall fans from 3,000 to 1,500,[20] sparking anger among Lions fans. As we entered the ground there was a huge roar went up as the Millwall lads caught sight of our main group coming in. With the patronizing, posh voice over. We found out. He came down for a visit and brought a mate who called himself 'Mac the knife' (LOL). Try again. Paphitis later introduced a membership scheme whereby only fans who would be prepared to join and carry membership cards would be allowed into The Den. WebThe original football hooligan channel - Latest footage @ http://terrace-retro.net Yeah it was funny. Websarfaraz ahmed retired; st andrew's boarding school acceptance rate. Always plenty of mW all in there. Harry tells his story with humour that had me laughing away, not as long a book as you would expect from a legend, and it's obvious he has left so much out so his other mates can tell their stories. [4], The BBC documentary Panorama was invited into the club by Millwall in 1977 to show the hooligan reputation was a myth and being blown out of proportion by reporting. a = s.createElement(o), What he was doing there i've no idea, but he went home with a few bruise's!. Unable to add item to List. There was a bit of trouble and, even at a young age, I wanted to get involved. Maybe not on same level, but it happened. Many were rivals working for opposing companies and vying for the same business. Every man and his dog, including Vauxies, had come down from Sunderland and it looked as though Durham Jail had emptied. have you seen the Millwall Documentry From 1977, thats on you tube as well.I dont know how to put links up on here, can somebody help cardiff 74 with this ? Loved early to mid 80s The millwall game remember them just before kick off giving it some and getting run out of the west.into the north and setting fire to everything they could . Comedy gold. 2 weeks later he did, there was around 18 of them!. I like Millwall .My club ,Birmingham has some history with them but they are without doubt a 'proper' football club.I'd say Blues are nearer to Millwall support mentality wise than any other club is to them. Reviewed in the United Kingdom on 14 March 2021. I was 4 you old twats and my favourite player of all time scored a screamer. There was also widespread fighting in the stands. It was a pleasing site. And I understand it has to work both ways. You progressed from one to the other with F Troop (led by the now deceased but infamous Harry the Dog) being the bees knees. Anyone fancies a laugh, go to 17.30 and witness what has to be the campest hooligan in football history. I remember staring work at Chester le Street District Council as a 16 year old in September 1977 and within months the lights would go out in the office at 3pm, 4pm or whatever time the blackout was called and Dickensian like we got on with our work via candlelight. rivalry, "Millwall hopes to leave dark history behind in F.A. The bit where the doc maker says Harry the dog made a lone attack on the Rovers end just makes me smile and it shouldnt i know. This service is provided on News Group Newspapers' Limited's Standard Terms and Conditions in accordance with our Privacy & Cookie Policy. This includes using first- and third-party cookies, which store or access standard device information such as a unique identifier. 21 Toughest British Football Hooligan Firms Ever!! }); I wasnt a troublemaker only at the football.". This book also contains funny stories about Harry. To inquire about a licence to reproduce material, visit our Syndication site. By 1979 all the main parties had changed leader, the UK had voted to remain in the Common Market in a referendum and had undergone a series of economic crises leading to the nations humiliating bailout by the International Monetary Fund in 1976 as well as the now notorious Winter of Discontent of 1978-1979. Annis Jnr Author and Publisher of 7 Books. This away game at Millwall in 1979 ended a hectic period for Sunderland fans, crowd trouble wise. In doing so, he woke up, leading in the kids jumping to safety. transitionDuration: 0, "[10][11] Trouble was reported at Loftus Road on 26 March 1966 during a match between Queens Park Rangers and Millwall, at a time when both sides were near the top of the league table pushing for promotion to Division Two, but the London derby was won 61 by QPR. I suppose its a tough part of London so in away I admire how they stick together. Happy days. WebMillwall were cleared of all charges while West Ham were found guilty of two: violent, threatening, obscene and provocative behaviour and failing to prevent their fans entering the field of play. Sounds like a nice scarf. If you go on You tube click on best ever football quote. No-One Likes Us, We Don't Care: True Stories from Millwall, Britain's Most Notorious Football Hooligans. A character named Harry the Dog became national news and a byword for hooliganism. The SAFC lads who stood at the doors would kick them off, and so this went on until we got to New Cross Gate.By now it was after 3pm and a couple of the younger lads were told to go upstairs and find out if anyone was waiting for us. Mic SmithAP Alex Murdaugh was able to use this business relationship in conjunction with his. The stories that subsequently became legend were not embellished; this was how it was. Was working in London yesterday and went to millwall v reading. ", Just before I turned nine I used to go with my dad. About half a dozen of them trotted towards the high rise flats near the ground, with dogs and we all wondered what the fuck was going on. "I went to a match in Feb 1967, just before I turned nine I used to go with my dad. Im not trying to glorify them or condemn them. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Also, early kick-off times arranged by the police often result in only a few hundred fans making the trip. To see all content on The Sun, please use the Site Map. The Sun website is regulated by the Independent Press Standards Organisation (IPSO), Our journalists strive for accuracy but on occasion we make mistakes. The Hammers were fined 115,000 by the FA. Please try again. They have a good time and genuinely do not give one solitary f*ck what anyone thinks of them and I quite admire that. Does this item contain quality or formatting issues? On Tour With The Lads; Millwall 1979, is the first in an occasional series of reminisces of supporting Sunderland AFC; a lifetime commitment and a one that I wouldnt have swapped for the world. There was fighting inside and outside the ground during the game between both sets of supporters, with one Millwall fan sustaining a broken jaw. Please try again. Brief content visible, double tap to read full content. "[8] In the 1920s Millwall's ground was closed for two weeks after a Newport County goalkeeper, who had been struck by missiles, jumped into the crowd to confront some of the home supporters and was knocked unconscious. Millwall was a place that although tarnished with crowd trouble through the years, hadnt really been on anyones radar and so the Roker faithful travelled down, bedecked in the red and white to hopefully witness a win for The Black Cats. Harry the Dog died an alcoholic in Essex. Reviewed in the United Kingdom on 14 February 2022. } 87' Substitution by Millwall player George Saville make way for George Evans. Follow authors to get new release updates, plus improved recommendations. color: #ff0202 } The show was extremely damaging for the club. In the second-half, a coin was thrown from the terraces, which struck Millwall player Len Julians on the head, drawing blood. On this Wikipedia the language links are at the top of the page across from the article title. ", When I started following the Baby Squad, I felt protected and also brave because now we had lads who would defend you through thick and thin. The Shed End Forum relies on revenue to pay for hosting and upgrades. I used too hear so many stories of Harry the dog when I was a millwall hooligan in the 80s, most true, a few mot so true, one being he was dead. What happens next will be interesting to witness. Includes initial monthly payment and selected options. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Great song, love going to the Den. It led to a ban on away supporters by Luton from their Kenilworth Road ground for four years. Knew most of them as a few of them drank in my local which was called the Squire in them days the lad with the big hair and glasses was Billy Piummer young lad was Gary Roberts usually got on with them well except of course around September 1976 when there was a couple of rows between our pub the Saxon which was Chels and the Squire I remember one Sunday night Little Tommy from Paddington (RIP) and a few others came over for a drink the Millwall lot came up from the squire and ran most of our mob up the road to Lower Sydenham station I got done pretty bad with a glass luckily I had one of the thick wrap round cardigans on which took most of it as they tried to do me in the back funny enough was drinking with them a couple of weeks later as if nothing had happened funny old game football eh!! Probably the only set of fans left in England that have a bit of fun at football without caring what anyone else thinks. display: block; })(window, document, 'script', 'https://google-analytics.com/analytics.js', 'ga'); : Many were rivals working for opposing companies and vying for the same business. [3] It also analyzes reviews to verify trustworthiness. Download the free Kindle app and start reading Kindle books instantly on your smartphone, tablet or computer no Kindle device required. Although he had played for eight different clubs, playing his fewest games (four) for Millwall, and was signed to Bradford City at the time, the BBC used the headline, "Former Millwall striker Gavin Grant guilty of murder". i[r] = i[r] || function () { : itemSelector: '.athena-blog-post', ASIN The sinister portraits - released ahead of Euro 2016 - are part of a series from acclaimed photographerSimon Harsent. "When I started following the Baby Squad, I felt protected and also brave because now we had lads who would defend you through thick and thin. I met a bloke down Millwall years ago who told me he was a Man U cockney Red, but was just down there with his pals who were Millwall. Kindle Edition. It was in this context and background that the Sunderland fans followed the team all over the country, in large numbers, a hostile uninviting England where football hooliganism was rife, at even the most surprising of places eg Bristol Rovers. [25], In October 2004, during a Football League Cup tie at home to Liverpool, Millwall fans taunted their Liverpool counterparts with songs making fun of the Hillsborough disaster which had claimed the lives of 96 Liverpool fans in 1989. No One Likes Us, We Don't Care: True Stories from Millwall, Britain's Most Notorious Football Holigans, NIGHTMARE: The Incredible Story of Britain's Most Prolific Football Hooligan, HATCHET HARRY: FOOTBALL HOOLIGAN AND DERBY LUNATIC FRINGE (DLF) THUG, Kicking the Habit: The Autobiography of England's Most Infamous Football Hooligan. It remained that way at 90 minutes. The police later said the violence, because of its large scale, was organised beforehand. (function (i, s, o, g, r, a, m) { Funnily enough, that Millwall area is probably the least changed (speaking of the social demographics). : As leader of Millwall's notorious F-Troop during the 1970s, he was at the forefront of many of the fist fights, pitch battles and gang warfare that broke out between rival firms in that era, including at Eastville Stadium in Bristol where he single-handedly tore into Bristol Rovers firm, the The infamous terrace chant of Millwall supporters , Millwall F.C.West Ham United F.C. The lad with the big hair? Reviewed in the United Kingdom on March 14, 2021. The News of the World, however, bore the headline: "Millwall Thugs Deck Linesman With Concrete". Rangers games on TV on at the Stanley Arms in Bermondsey, 15 mins walk to The Den - good for a Saturday lunchtime KO followed by 3pm at Millwall. I remember the Feds ringing up my Father, who had to go to Chester le Street Police station to pay my fare home. 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Knew most of them as a few of them drank in my local which was called the Squire in them days the lad with the big hair and glasses was Billy Piummer young lad was Gary Roberts usually got on with them well except of course around September 1976 when there was a couple of rows between our pub the Saxon which was Chels and the Squire I remember one Sunday night Little Tommy from Paddington (RIP) and a few others came over for a drink the Millwall lot came up from the squire and ran most of our mob up the road to Lower Sydenham station I got done pretty bad with a glass luckily I had one of the thick wrap round cardigans on which took most of it as they tried to do me in the back funny enough was drinking with them a couple of weeks later as if nothing had happened funny old game football eh!! [14] The penalty that Millwall faced was perhaps that the club's name was now "synonymous with everything that was bad in football and society". This book does not seek to glorify football violence which the author considers a blotch on society. , Word Wise A mini van full of Millwall kids stood leaning against it and as we walked past they just glared.