Are they deliberately lying to us? Were they are waiting for God Himself to come bring the keys? The idea that a gag order was issued on this truck is an unconfirmed rumor. I tend to agree. Some people are very insistent that Ron Logan is the killer. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, This is a community where we can speak openly about the Murders of Libby and Abby in Delphi, IN, Press J to jump to the feed. Now, Im not a member of LE, and I have never claimed to have investigation experience, but I believe Im a fairly intelligent person with at least average reasoning skills. Allen "has been consistent" in police interviews over the years, former FBI agent and ABC News contributor Brad Garrett said. She has been featured in Psychic Investigators, Paranormal Witness, and interviewed by Nancy Grace! Friends with Ron Logan on whose property the crime occurred. (WISH) Investigators believe the bodies of Abby Williams and Libby German were "moved and staged" at the Delphi murder scene, according to court documents obtained by I-Team 8. In fact just based on what I have going on, researching this case is the absolute last thing I should be doing, but its drawing me in, and I cant help it. No charges have been issued against Miller in relation to the Delphi case. Hes afraid hes going to be framed with these murders, a reasonable fear. However, there was one little problem. That would have been quite a problem. Hes laughing b/c theyve been focused upon a completely wrong direction. Welcome to the site! Im not buying the fact that they just werent equipped to handle an investigation of this magnitude. He has connections with current LE officers. There is endless silly speculation in the comments about BG I think BG was a teenagerWhat if BG escaped on a hand glider?What if BG is dead?What if BG escaped to a deserted island where he now renamed himself Lord Jim and is now king of the savages?What if BG is really a woman in drag?What if BG is Mafia hitman?Bla bla bla bla.. But the scanner doesnt say she came to bring the keys. There is no proof that the bodies are posed but the speculation of what it could mean if they were posed is worth discussion. Id prefer stuff thats in the papers. What did Ron Logan have to say about the BG photo? "I didn't waaaaaant to, but I didn't want to be called a liiiiiiiiar". Video from one of the victim's phones shows a man on the trail wearing dark jacket and jeans. When I was young I would take off till late evening, and it was ok. I I heard the girls say repeatedly, Its Elementary Watson, and 2 plus 2 equals 4. Required fields are marked *. No, I wasnt aware that she existed. He may well have had a deer blind on the Mears property. This was just the most underhanded, disgusting display of we need a fall guy, and LE should be ashamed of themselves. In particular, user/tobor is excellent. Wait so the part about him recording the crime is some search warrant given to someone where the cops wanted to check media files? The girls bodies were found near a hiking trail on February 14, 2017 a day after they went missing while on a walk during a day off from school. A blogger/sleuthed named Robert Lindsay supposedly has one on his site, there's a camera flashing on it. It says at one point apparently Machine Operator as a title, but then the vid definitely makes it a point to focus on Christian Teen Club. Not sure what the implication is there, but one can certainly imagine. They said, Hes just a decoy. But we dont know what that means. How do you join and can you join as a European? You just dont know what a person is capable of. Robert Lindsay is the leader of a sleuthing group that presently has ~230 paid members. The two men may have been working at the Tyson plant in Logansport, Indiana and may have been shipped to the sister Tyson plant in Waterloo, Iowa, where they were put up temporarily in motels for months at a time. Much more on that below. Richard Allen, 50, was charged with the murders of Abby Williams, 13, and Libby German, 14, in Delphi, Ind., in February 2017. Finally, after five long years, the Indiana State Police has charged a 50-year-old local man with the Delphi murders of two teenage best friends, Libby German and Abby Williams. Even after the girls were recovered, Mr. X stayed around through all of the media and police hubbub for the next eight hours, from 12:30 PM to 8:30 PM, so his truck was out at the crime scene for 26 full hours, with Mr X presumably with it the entire time. Some of it, I feel, is the result of intentional obfuscation. We have 250 members in our group. Something to think about. BG is obviously a middle-aged man around 50. Hes a local executive of a government function or perhaps better yet a nonprofit of some sort. Lists a factory as place of residence. Mr. X was employed by Indiana Packers around 2011 or 2012. These crimes are often a great big game to these guys, and they often try to insert clever little coincidences into their crimes, probably just to freak people out and make themselves seem diabolically clever, evil geniuses. We dont know who his roommate was in Delphi and then again in Evansdale, and we also dont know what sort of work they had both been moved over there for. Based on investigators experience it is reasonable to believe that the creation of an alibi prior to the discovery of a crime indicates culpability or knowledge of the crime, the agent wrote. Detectives said that after the photo was taken, a man approached the girls and apparently told them to go down the hill.. He stopped for gas and cigarettes. Who says those videos are from him? The male model whose photos were used has been identified and is not a person of interest in the case, investigators said. You will see below where we regard certain things as Proven. He was living in the Evansdale area at the time. Im getting, at the home!. I do not want to see this man or his family harassed in any way. Im actually a rather shy, introverted, cautious, and extremely polite person who is terrified of making people mad, getting called creepy, offending people, etc. I thought there was more to this blog. What I should have asked is just what if anything has Ron Logan said about the photo and left out if the guy on the bridge (BG) was a friend of Ron Logans because obviously if he was a friend we would now know who BG is. A book has been published accusing this man of this crime. He is said to haveadmitted talking to Libby German using a fake Instagram profile called Anthony_shots. But many questions still remain around the murders of Abby Williams, 13, and Libby German, 14. It is interesting to note that the Evansdale girls were also abducted on the 13th. The murdered girls, who attended Delphi Community Middle School where they played saxophone and volleyball together, had visited the bridge before the day they died. I have no idea either way, but its just something that has bothered me because I dont see him being brought up nearly as much as some others who have had little to no connection to this case. Did he sleep? Got it? SoundCloud.com How to Submit Tips In Delphi Murders Case Watch on We wrote an article a while back pointing out that we felt Holder was innocent, and that set off a spate of hate mail and threats from him and his son, which we found odd. Klines voice, however, has not been ruled out. I almost feel as though LE doesnt want to solve this crime, and that scares me. The Hanish & Bowen case have revealed this for them (thus the new direction & young BG sketch & ditching of old BG sketch in 2019 a month after Hanish)I bet Hanish was catfished using that Anthony_Shots account toohe mustve been told or overheard info about the Delphi murders & therefore removedBowen removed for either the same thing or fact she knew the truth behind Hanish murder (b/c I definitely am not buying that Kirts is bisexual & choked him out during a weird sexcapade, gimme a break). Hunting partner of Anthony Greeno, podcaster who has reported on the case avidly. Five years later, Abigail Williams, 13, and Libby German, 14, were taken into custody Friday five years after Allen, 50, was found dead on a hiking trail in Delphi, Indiana, in February 2017. Background to the Delphi Murders On Monday, February 13th, 2017, at around 1 pm, Abigail Williams and Liberty German were dropped off near the Delphi Historic Trails in Delphi, Indiana. I guess Im not sure when he graduated. 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Newly Released Details About The Delphi Murders Show How Police Came To Watch on Oops, we couldn't find that track. I also thought about whether the finders might have covered a body somewhat, but assume that they would have reported that anyway. No one has to believe me when I say LE has a main suspect, but there are number of suspects that ought to be put to rest. Indiana State Police's analysis of Allen's gun "determined the unspent round located within two feet" of one of the victims "had been cycled through Richard M. Allen's Sig Sauer Model P226," the probable cause affidavit said. This year, Allen "again admitted" to police "that he was on the trail but denied knowing Victim 1 or Victim 2 and denied any involvement in their murders," according to the probable cause affidavit. He prefers whiskey, its his drink of choice and hes off without it. It's interesting to look at anyway. You are an obviously intelligent person and have made many good points. In these cases, we have 4-5 separate sources, usually vaguely referred to as inside sources, testifying to the truth of something. They're stills from the helicopter footage during the search. The rumor is that his alibi is a Delphi police officer, Nate Allen, who committed suicide in December. Keep in mind that we are not claiming that anything listed below as Unverified is true, although some it has a good chance of being true. There is a lot of controversy about that but it does appear that you can hear on the audio, Is that creepy guy still following us?. Kelsi has been cleared. Theyre generally unusable. Please do not report this due to it discussing a rumor. is that creepy guy still following us?. Shout out to anyone else who feels the same. Today we will Discuss about Delphi murders: Crime Scene| Press Conference Update| Bodies Posed. The main suspect according to police is a man whose name rhymes with Fat Clown. Kegan Kline, 28, of Peru, Indiana, was named as a possible suspect in the girls' murders. Allen's lead defense attorney Brad Rozzi did not respond to a request for comment and fellow attorney Andrew Baldwin declined to comment. By
I hope he doesnt read here but I knew a Facebook group mod who was in contact with him and she felt he was either gay, an effeminate man, or a Beta, as she put it. I ask this because another theory says they could have gone up the creek to a barn and then they should have dry clothes. It has been said there were dolls and stuffed animals around the girls. Why say you have crime scene photos if you're not intending to share them? River searched near home of man police say posed . Or wet sneaker. The girls bodies were discovered on his . You cannot keep your own story straight. Then that's no "grudge"., That's called pure evil. Most of Leigh Kerrs and the search party members testimony has gone into this bracket because unfortunately, while we think they are right, we cannot regard their testimony as probative. Multiple, multiple deep stab wounds.. You mentioned a pic of CSI workers with a doll a couple of days ago did anything come of this? Via LE Source A, Mr. X s roommate in 2011-2012 in Delphi told LE that BG was absolutely Mr. X. 242? According to Business Insider senior reporter and co-founder of The Murder Sheet podcast, ine Cain, Libby had an interaction with Kline on Instagram but thought she was interacting with the person in a photo Kline posted as himself, in an attempt to catfish young girls into sending nude photos. It is unclear whether they were referring to Allen or not.
Crime scene photos leaked? : r/LibbyandAbby - reddit Derrick German: Libbys father, meth dealer, convict who served time in prison and supposedly ratted people out to get a lower sentence. David, the person involved in the leaked text messages, claimed that the girls died from stabbing. It was also asked How did BG get across that knee-high stream in the middle of winter without nearly getting hypothermia? The girls would have also been subject to hypothermia?? If you met me, you would laugh at them for saying that. I am friends with one of the parents and to my knowledge, no one has been told if this was sexual or not, only people have speculated. Hes a greedy businessman with dollar signs in fluttering eyes that sound like clanging cash registers every time he blinks. LE caught Mr. X in the lies about losing his keys, calling his wife to bring him a spare, and a spare even existing in the first place. Occupation: Handicrafter making wooden signs. There were definitely some perverse acts done to these girls, but I believe they were done to them after they were already dead. Give it a rest, dammit! Liberty "Libby" German and Abigail "Abby" Williams. There was a helicopter/drone photoset going around in a FB group in the last few days (don't remember which group). LE would also be interested in anyone who may have helped Mr. X after the crime, perhaps burning evidence or whatever. The date of the crime and the time of the abduction are both 2-13. A pair of binoculars. He took a piece of jewelry from Libby as a trophy thats also buried. Then he needed 2-3 months of therapy to work through this traumatic experience. Our best police source just told us that Ron Logan has been absolutely cleared as a suspect. And those are just a few of the suspected serials running around free. Neither he nor his father have been arrested over the Delphi Bridge killings, which police continue to investigate. Face is in quotes because it's likely my mind just making a rational picture out of sticks and tree trunks. They were reported missing two hours after they didn't show up for their ride home, and their bodies were found the following day about half a mile away from the bridge. We have your fingerprints on the counter.. Thats a full 18 hours. I realize unsolved would be a magnet for that but wow. Because of the nature of the victims wounds, it is nearly certain the perpetrator of the crime would have gotten blood on his person/clothing.. Keep perusing to discover what the supposed Delphi Murders leaked text messages are about. But alas, he raped one lass too many, and the law closed in on him holed up in his home, which now resembled Dodge City. If so, this proves that this crime was planned nearly down to the minute. BTW whats up with all the psychic stuff? The Indiana State Police on Friday made progress in the 2017 cold case, commonly known as the Delphi murders. What? He cant even drive a car! Point is that he may have never had ceased offending. They just accept everyone as long as you say youre straight. Now, I have denied knowing something that I actually knew, but that was to protect the integrity of an investigation. What time was RL on video eating pizza? They are black and white and do mention some aspects of how they died. In the search warrant application parts of which are redacted the agent reveals that the murderer would have been covered in the victims blood due to the large amount of blood was lost by the victims at the crime scene. Garrett said it's possible that the gun jammed and the killer turned to another weapon. I wish I could delete this comment because it made no sense. To say these girls had things shoved in them without proof is horrible for their parents. I believe there is probable cause to believe that RONALD LOGAN has committed the crime of murder and evidence of that can be found on RONALD LOGANS property.. No Im just a mechanic in Boston Mass. Clothing soaked in blood, seen and unseen. Theyve been doing this from the very start, so this is nothing new. Known facts about the personal life of the main suspect, Mr. X.: Residence history: Unknown for first 18 years, possibly Illinois. "No, that's not her nor Libby," he wrote in his text response. So that means he killed these girls because theyre chicks too! Doesnt sound like a logical progression of thought to me. The girl survived, and Chadwell is currently serving a 90-year sentence for the attack. Long, 22 pages. He has dealt with his grief with silence and hiding himself away. Tony Kline is 65, 310 pounds! We also heard it from someone very close to a detective who was working on the case who had confided in them. There was a helicopter/drone photoset going around in a FB group in the last few days (dont remember which group). Comment * document.getElementById("comment").setAttribute( "id", "a9ecdae37f37f9e5f76df75466de7fce" );document.getElementById("b83dbe3da2").setAttribute( "id", "comment" ); document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Your email address will not be published. The case is still being actively investigated. And I appear quite harmless, too. Say for instance LE arrested Mr. X and charged him with the double homicides of these two girls. Thanks Dee. He has a prosthetic foot due to diabetes, and no way could he high-tail it across that bridge. I will kill again,' one note found in 1990 read. So yeah, if you type in Mr Xs real govt registered name into the old YT, you get a handful of cryptic videos, slideshows with creepy music typical for this sort of thing. A brief clip of the man walking towards the girls on the Monon High Bridge Trail was released too. Now he says he never saw BG at all. This Feb. 13, 2017, file photo released by the Indiana State Police shows a man walking along the trail system in Delphi, Ind., authorities say is the suspect in the killings of two teenage girls. 3) This man is a *heavy* smoker and a functioning alcoholic. 4) He was married many years prior. Killer? Why would the police lie about where they found them tho that doesnt make sense. She has channeled her pain into grief and sadness. Deer kit on waist with five hunting knives. His home was searched and he was arrested shortly after the killings, but he was released and never charged. Too much points to them to be coincidence. *The cops refer to cases of scumbag on scumbag shootings as No humans involved or public service killings. Not say that innocent people are killed and hurt in these cases and in some cases the target themselves is completely innocent. Important friendships: Very casual friend of Mike Patty, father of one of the girl victims. He does not work there at the moment. The last person on Earth to protect the killer is poor Becky Patty, God bless her mortal soul. Its not free though. We also do not know why out of all of the places to search, he happened to pick the exact location where the girls were killed. Well have a conversation about it, hell say, you know, Its such a tragedy, and well say were sorry for the families and all of them. The girls would have also been subject to hypothermia?? I am not revealing the name of the main suspect here and will only refer to him as Mr. X. I also request all commenters to also refer to him as Mr. X. I do this as a simple measure to try to protect his identity. She still hasnt been able to process this, assuming such a thing can ever be processed. Yes, the police have told us that they now think that Bridge Guy or Mr. X did Evansdale too. Charles Eldridge was arrested in Union City, Indiana, in 2019, after he arranged to meet somebody he thought was a teenage girl for sex. Delphi Murders Update April 13, 2021: Stunning Rumors about the Murders and Related Matters Now Officially Proven! I wonder if that person is confusing the crime scene photos with the Iowa girls. In the years before his arrest, Miller had left numerous notes in public places saying the killer of Tinsley would strike again. FSG is at the trails every day. Train tracks and you guessed it, more fields, parallel to the gas station. I could know that some guy was a serial killer with 10 victims, and I dont have to go to the police. Were you a member of the private group? I dont know why that stood out to me. This girl was refusing to get an abortion that he wanted her to get. There are cases like this all over the country. The main suspect is brazen, openly admits to being a pedophile, goes to the victims graves and leaves flowers, and visits the victims families to offer solace for their losses. See the sort of games these guys play? In fact, the rumor is that LE simply does not have enough evidence against Mr. X to take the case to court. The sketch of the younger man is the catfish of the 19 year old boy used to lure in Libby from Snapchat. That would mean he would have had to drive back to Delphi by at least 3:45 and possibly later, depending on what town he was in and when he left. Homeless for a period in the 2000s, where he resided at a homeless shelter. The problem here is that before 5:30 PM, no one knew the girls were missing other than the families and a few friends. Apologies if this has been covered here before, but the rumor that Libby was found shirtless and nearly decapitated and that Abby was found still clothed and posed with her hands folded, does anyone know exactly how it originated and if there is anything circumstantial to back it . Must be a lot of people with that name. The catfishing situation is not what we think. Please check out my YouTube channel, MsPsychic Sleuth. 3 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IIoxYhsduLQ, Protected: Post to Discuss All of the Various POIs and Theories in the Delphi Murders from the Crime to the Present, Protected to Avoid Libel and Character Assassination Part 10, Alt Left: This Is Almost Certainly the Single Most Inexplicable Series of Geopolitical Blunders in Recorded History, Alt Left: Add Iran to That Sino-Russian Alliance While You Are at It, NATO Helped the Ukrainians Fire All Those Drones at Russia, Including all the Way to Moscow, The Conquest of Germany and Japan Never Ended, The Conquest and Destruction of Russia Project Goes Way Back to Post World War 2, The Jewish Conspiracy To Subject Humankind. Authorities have released no connections between Chadwell and the Delphi murders. There is also no indication as to who took the snap on the Monon High Bridge Trail. The February 2017 killings . These are the facts about the man LE suspects is BG. . Yes I thought the suspect had been recorded walking on the raailroad tracks on one of the girls phones. The authorities have been purposeful in not disclosing much information about the Delphi Murders. If the killer had that weird and I would assume rare fetish with the sticks, branches and stakes, maybe the local sex workers may know exactly who it is? Summer months. Today a true-crime podcast released documents that shed new light on the unsolved crime. Because statistically, the chance that it is a crazy serial killer would be smaller. Too fucking bad.
A number of strange objects were found around the Evansdale girls similar to the bizarre images decorating the Delphi crime scene. Kegan Kline, 27, of Peru, Indiana, was also named as a suspect in the murders. Kelsi German: Sister of Libby. It was all over by 3:30 sure takes a lot of the heat off of LE for calling off that search, amirite? And humans are animals too. Not because theres any evidence that they were lookouts, but more because everyone in that situation at the time of the murders is being looked at that way. But who was his roomate in evansdale in the hotel they stayed in? The profile was used from 2016 to 2017 on platforms including Snapchat and Instagram and used photos of a known male model, portraying him as being extremely wealthy and owning numerous sports cars. Also there are rumors that the girl left a note explain her pregnancy in a tree in her backyard. Heavily redacted court documents say that state police and the FBI encountered Kline in 2017 while conducting a search warrant in Peru, Indiana. There are unconfirmed rumors Mr. Xs truck was towed after his wife never came to bring the car keys and that Mr. Xs truck was never searched by police. Let us know if you want to join the private sleuthing site where we can talk about this stuff in much greater detail than we do out here. What are they doing to move this forward? Every podcast is all about them! Because of the number of people saying this rumor is true, it goes into the likely category. I saw the local Delphi News footage from the week of the murders where they interview Ron Logan while they are actually searching his property. About eight days after the murders, this man shoots and kills his 16 year old live-in girlfriend while allegedly cleaning his firearm. No one knows if he did this crime or not. These are mostly hate sites. He states when he got home that night (13th) one of his neighbors had came over to ask if he could search his property, looking for the girls. On the day the girls went missing, Libby had posted photos on Snapchat of her and Abby walking along the trail. We know he had binoculars with him and he told the girls that he was a railroad policeman who had spotted them with binoculars. How many times has he been cleared? On the other hand, a sample with only nine markers is absolutely not usable in court. In addition, we may have more documents. He is one of the first and only witnesses in this case!!. Thing is, over time your information tends to get better. A lot of my friends didnt join. He killed at least five people, specializing in young women. Ages approximate. Though there was no press conference held on the third anniversary of the murders in February of 2020, investigators said that the case was not cold. Indiana Cold Cases is similar and so is True Crime Jesus. They have their own sources. A girls hand wrapped around a knife which was plunged into a log that she was resting her head on. 21:06 GMT 30 Oct 2022 They think he did it. You do a great job! The bodies were found posed by the killer, who is believed to have been between five and ten feet tall and 180 to 200 pounds. And there are some good posters on r/LibbyandAbby; its just that they happen to be in the minority and all the best posters get downvoted to Hell and the people who are dead wrong get scores of upvotes! How do I do this? In the Delphi case, a signature could be very evident if both victims . People are saying that we have a copy of the gag order that was issued on the towing of the truck at the CPS building. Liberty "Libby" German, 14 years old, and 13-year-old Abigail "Abby" Williams were both perfectly normal and sweet teenage girls. They dont have enough on the main suspect him to take him to trial, but they enough to think did it. How do they know he sent audio/video to one of the girls phones? Stabbing of one girl in the neck artery at some point after the above events. It was stated that Libby was nude. Bottle of toilet bowl cleaner in left pocket.*. Mr Kline was charged with 30 felonies in 2020 over the case. Admitting his culpability only after lying to law enforcement, whom he first told that the girl shot herself while cleaning her weapon. It is important to note that you are under no obligation to tell the police anything. Of course, there are trolls saying that the information Ive given is info thats already known. Where did he get the food and what was the food?
Delphi murders: Crime Scene| Press Conference Update| Bodies Posed I showed a few friends who knew nothing of the case and they didnt see anything either. Specifically, we are getting much of the the following information straight from the cops themselves. Mr. Xs wife, his daughter, and Becky Patty are now putting out a story that Mr. X never lost his keys in the first place.
Theres no evidence that either man has been to the bridge even one time!